Thursday, July 9, 2009

Interesting Conversation

An atheist (who does not believe in God) professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and..... Prof: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof : Is God good?

Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student : Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

(Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?

Student : No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student: From...God.. .

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?

(Student does not answer.)

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

(Student has no answer.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student: Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.

Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.

Student: No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat .. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so.. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent.. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )

Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir... The link between man & God is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.

NB:

This is a true story, and the student was none other than........ .

Muhammad Ali Jinnah , Founder of Pakistan .

Why Pakistanis are easy to identify.

Note: The author is a proud Pakistani and is talking to himself ! :D
1. Everything you eat is savoured in garlic, onion and tomatoes.
2. You try and reuse gift wrappers, gift boxes, and of course aluminium foil.
3. You are always standing next to the two largest size suitcases at the Airport.
4. You arrive one or two hours late to a party - and think it's normal.
5. You name your children in rhythms (example, Shameem, Naeem, Faheem .. Nadia, Nazia, Shazia .. etc.)
6. All your children have pet names, which sound nowhere close to their real names.
7. You take snacks anywhere it says 'No Food Allowed'
8. You talk for an hour at the front door when leaving some one's house.
9. You load up the family car with as many people as possible.
10.You use plastic to cover anything new in your house whether it's the remote control, VCR, or new couch.
11. Your parents tell you not to care what your friends think, but they won't let you do certain things because of what the other 'Uncles and Aunties' will think.
12. You buy and display crockery, which is never used. as it is meant for a special occasion that never happens.
13. You as a vinyl table cloth on your kitchen table.
14. You use grocery bags to hold garbage.
15. You keep leftover food in your fridge in as many numbers of bowls as possible.
16. Your kitchen shelf is full of jars, varieties of bowls and plastic utensils (got free with purchase of other stuff)
17. You carry a stash of your own food whenever you travel (and travel means any car ride longer than 15 minutes).
18. You own a rice cooker or a pressure cooker or both.
19. You fight over who pays the dinner bill.
20. You live with your parents and you are 40 years old. (And they prefer it that way).
21. You don't use measuring cups when cooking.
22. You never learnt how to stand in a queue.
23. You can only travel if there are 5 persons at least to see you off or receive you whether you are travelling by bus, train or plane.
24. You only make long distance calls after 11pm.
25. Your conversation is laced with, with constant references to God even while talking about the most mundane and insignificant matters.
26. You call an older person you never met before Uncle or Auntie.
27. When your parents meet a stranger and talk for a few minutes, you discover another distant cousin.
28. You have bed sheets on your sofas so as to keep them from getting dirty.
29. Its embarrassing if you're invited to a wedding with less than 600 people.
30. You have mastered the art of bargaining in shopping.
31. You don't engage in dialogue. You don't pay the slightest attention what the other person is saying. You impatiently wait for them to stop speaking so you can blurt out your piece.
32. You have strong opinions on everything under the sun. But when it comes to decision making, you allow issues to reach a crisis point and panic set in before you decide to act.

Pakistan Zindabad - Pakistan Paindabad !! :)